Comments on: Fused Rings – Cis-Decalin and Trans-Decalin https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/ Sun, 05 May 2024 03:13:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Apurva https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-692678 Fri, 03 May 2024 13:53:24 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-692678 For instability of cis-decalin, you have mentioned that there are two gauche interactions. How many gauche interactions are there in trans-decalin? When I drew the Newman projections, there are 3 gauche interactions in cis and 2 are in trans. But I may be wrong.

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By: Naming Bicyclic Compounds – Fused, Bridged, and Spiro | Straight A Mindset https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-679052 Thu, 07 Dec 2023 22:13:41 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-679052 […] the previous post we started our discussion of structures with more than one ring, using decalin as our key […]

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By: Fused Rings – Cis-Decalin and Trans-Decalin | Straight A Mindset https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-679051 Thu, 07 Dec 2023 22:12:45 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-679051 […] cis-Decalin and trans-Decalin […]

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-577371 Mon, 02 Mar 2020 17:59:28 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-577371 In reply to cizo.

I’m not sure which trans decalin alkene you’re referring to, but to answer your second question, opening of epoxides happens in a very specific way – it occurs so that both substituents will end up axial so the half-chair can relax into a boat. It’s called the Furst-Plattner rule. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BCrst-Plattner_Rule

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By: cizo https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-577326 Sun, 01 Mar 2020 20:01:15 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-577326 What shape would a trans decalin be that had a double bond opposite where the rings fuse? And would this have an impact on epoxide formation (using a peroxide) and subsequent reduction of the epoxide to an alcohol?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-569418 Thu, 31 Oct 2019 20:54:50 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-569418 In reply to Alisha.

Remember that when two adjacent substituents on a ring are “cis”, one is axial and the other is equatorial. Takes some time to get used to, but they are on the same side!

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By: Alisha https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-569333 Thu, 31 Oct 2019 05:05:08 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-569333 I have the same modeling kit.

How did you connect the middle carbons ( the carbons that create the bridge) in a cis confirmation?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-569225 Tue, 29 Oct 2019 18:25:03 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-569225 In reply to Komal.

Glad to hear, thank you for stopping by, Komal.

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By: Komal https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-569169 Mon, 28 Oct 2019 19:17:34 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-569169 It’s completely explained topic in best way. Thanks

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/08/05/fused-rings/#comment-556258 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:14:06 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8402#comment-556258 In reply to Nish.

I’m assuming you’re talking about the isomer of dimethyl decalin where there are methyl groups on the ring junctions. Yes, with cis decalin those methyl groups would have a dihedral angle of 60 degrees to each other (staggered) whereas in trans decalin they would be staggered.

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