Comments on: Cyclohexane Chair Conformation Stability: Which One Is Lower Energy? https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/ Thu, 07 Dec 2023 22:15:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Bredt’s Rule (And Summary of Cycloalkanes) | Straight A Mindset https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-679056 Thu, 07 Dec 2023 22:15:22 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-679056 […] A-values are additive. With di- and trisubstituted cyclohexanes, we can use A-values to determine which chair conformation is most stable. […]

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By: Cyclohexane Chair Conformation Stability: Which One Is Lower Energy? | Straight A Mindset https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-679049 Thu, 07 Dec 2023 22:11:52 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-679049 […] A-Values Are A Useful Measure of Bulkiness […]

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By: Maha https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-645300 Sun, 01 Jan 2023 21:14:02 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-645300 It was really helpful thanks a lot

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-583158 Wed, 12 Aug 2020 16:56:36 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-583158 In reply to Shiwei Liu.

Yes! That is an excellent point. This is addressed in Reference 3. The gauche interaction in trans 1,2-dimethylcyclohexane is 0.74 kcal/mol. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040403900814355

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By: Shiwei Liu https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-582669 Sat, 01 Aug 2020 05:39:48 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-582669 The equatorial substituents including methyl group can also have significant gauche interactions with each other. For example, the two equatorial methyl groups in trans-1,2-dimethylcyclohexane (equatorial conformation). The gauhe interaction between these two methyl group is 0.9 kCal/mol instead of zero kCal/mol in this post. Below includes more examples for your reference.

https://sites.science.oregonstate.edu/~gablek/CH334/Chapter4/bare_Problem_LG9.htm

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By: Andrea https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-571072 Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:28:11 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-571072 Thank you. Great work with your blog!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-571025 Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:50:21 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-571025 Hi Andrea! Alluding to your earlier comment, there is likely a solvent effect because of differences in dipole moment. From Eliel’s “Stereochemistry of Organic Compounds”, page 673 I see that the dipole moment of cis 1,2-dichlorocyclopropane is 3.10 and the dipole moment of the trans is 2.63 . This would suggest that in less polar solvents (e.g. pentane, hexane) the trans would be favored so as to minimize the dipole moment.
I seem to recall some discussion of the solvent dependence of A-values from one of Eliels papers but I can’t find it at the moment!

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By: Andrea https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-571024 Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:33:13 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-571024 In March’s organic chemistry (7th edition chapter 4) is pointed out that for 1,2-dihalides cyclohexanes there is a preference for the diaxial form. Why not the equatorial?

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By: Andrea https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-570980 Mon, 18 Nov 2019 08:27:52 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-570980 What about the effect of different solvents on the stabilization for substituted cyclohexane?

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By: Sourav https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/07/23/which-cyclohexane-chair-is-of-lower-energy/#comment-567310 Sun, 13 Oct 2019 01:04:10 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8393#comment-567310 Thank you so much for the explanation!
I seem to have pondered too much over the molecule as I have another question.
Will there be van der Waals strain in the case of bulky equatorial groups lying distant from one another, say in 1,3 or 1,4 positions? Will the diaxial conformer still be favoured?

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