Comments on: Protecting Groups for Amines – Carbamates https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/ Fri, 10 Feb 2023 03:17:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Cbz Organic Portal - LoginWave https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-620915 Thu, 17 Feb 2022 03:22:30 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-620915 […] 5. Protecting Groups for Amines: Carbamates – Master Organic … […]

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By: Ruben https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-614502 Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:52:59 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-614502 Hi,
I noticed that the stereochemistry of phenylalanine is wrong in the first dipeptide.
Thanks for the web.
Rubén

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-604359 Fri, 13 Aug 2021 14:34:10 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-604359 In reply to Zoe.

Yes Zoe, absolutely there is. One would need to protect the lysine nitrogen separately, and ideally be able to deprotect the lysine nitrogen under conditions that leave other nitrogens untouched. Functional groups that can be removed without affecting other existing protecting groups are said to be “orthogonal”, using an analogy from geometry. This is why such a large number of protecting groups have been developed.
For example one could use a benzyl protecting group (PhCH2) on the lysine nitrogen and remove it with Pd-C / H2 without affecting any Boc or FMOC protecting groups. One could deprotect FMOC with base (piperidine) without affecting the other two, or remove BOC with strong acid (TFA).
Does that answer your question? James

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By: Zoe https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-604353 Fri, 13 Aug 2021 05:01:24 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-604353 Thanks so much for this module, it was super helpful! I’m wondering how these procedures would need to be modified when dealing with the synthesis of a peptide bond involving an amino acid like lysine, which has an NH2 group that could act as a nucleophile. Is there a second protecting group that would need to be added to prevent side reactions between the nucleophilic side group at the carbonyls of the incoming amino acids? Thanks!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-578098 Sun, 15 Mar 2020 13:01:03 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-578098 In reply to Mia.

The usual approach is to protect the nitrogen(s) before you bring them together in the same molecule. If you’re in a situation where you have two chemically similar amines and have to selectively protect one, that’s a planning problem. There are a lot of variables so it depends on the particulars of your molecule, but there’s almost always a way to do it!
Whether you use Boc or CBz depends on the other functional groups in your molecule. The acid required for Boc deprotection can sometimes affect sensitive functional groups in your molecule; CBz deprotection is much milder. It would be easier to give you a more specific answer if you showed me a specific problem.

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By: Mia https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-578069 Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:28:50 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-578069 In the orthogonal protecting groups, how is it possible to protect one nitrogen leaving the other unprotected which is then protected with a different group. And how do you choose whether to use first Boc or Cbz?
Thank you!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-557672 Mon, 08 Jul 2019 03:09:10 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-557672 In reply to Sean Hu.

I don’t know. I’m unaware of any schemes for deprotecting the glutamine sidechain in vivo.

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By: Sean Hu https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-557662 Sun, 07 Jul 2019 23:54:54 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-557662 How to protect Glutamine’s side chain for easy and mild removal of the protection group under the physilogical condition without denaturing proteins?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-548033 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:11:42 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-548033 In reply to Andrea.

Other acids work too, such as bubbling HCl gas through the solution. However using neat (i.e. undiluted) TFA is just such a clean reaction that it’s typically the first choice. You can literally just dissolve your reactant in dicholoromethane in a stirred, open flask, get out a pipet, drop neat TFA into solution and wait for the bubbling to stop (the byproduct is isobutylene, aka 2-methyl-propene) and the reaction is done. It’s extraordinarily easy to do.

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By: Andrea https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/06/07/protecting-groups-for-amines-carbamates/#comment-538594 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:40:35 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11632#comment-538594 Why TFA is the best for the deprotection step? What about other acids? It does require very low pH to work? Thanks

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