Comments on: Reactions of Enols – Acid-Catalyzed Aldol, Halogenation, and Mannich Reactions https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/ Mon, 22 May 2023 19:54:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-654462 Mon, 08 May 2023 01:16:07 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-654462 In reply to Wojciech Domagala.

Fixed! Thanks for the spot!

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By: Wojciech Domagala https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-654458 Mon, 08 May 2023 00:01:54 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-654458 Please double check the “Acid-Catalysis In The Aldol Reaction, Part 1: Acid catalyzes keto-enol tautomerism” reaction scheme. The centre structure (protonated acetone) is uncharged and features a ten-electron oxygen atom. Replacing one electron pair at the oxygen atom with a positive charge will sort the problem out.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-633410 Mon, 18 Jul 2022 19:54:10 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-633410 In reply to Meet.

yes, keto-enol tautomerism can be assisted through the use of either acid or base.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-633409 Mon, 18 Jul 2022 19:53:50 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-633409 In reply to Andrews George.

In the acid-catalyzed aldol addition, the slow step is attack of the enol on the aldehyde/ketone. But for more information than you probably want, I recommend: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ja01553a056

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-633408 Mon, 18 Jul 2022 19:52:31 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-633408 In reply to Giovanni Poli.

Thanks for writing!
Noyce studied this: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ja01553a056
and concluded that while the E1 can certainly occur, especially where a relatively stable carbocation that can be formed (e.g. p-MeOC6CH4).the elimination generally goes through the enol. This is also the case for the self-condensation of acetaldehyde. see: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ja01553a056

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By: Giovanni Poli https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-589047 Sat, 05 Dec 2020 13:20:16 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-589047 James,
I liked very much this post! Thank you for your work.
In the Clayden book 2012 (pg 616), and in the Karty book (pg 912) the acid catalyzed dehydration is claimed as an E1, from the carbonyl, and not from the enol.
My feeling is that this mechanism involves an E1, but from the enol. Indeed, in this case, when water leaves, the carbenium ion formed benefits of three resonance contributors: one with the positive charge on the beta carbon, another one with the positive charge on the carbonyl carbon (the double bond has shifted), plus the oxycarbenium ion. So, this carbocation has many reasons to be a stable intermediate, and if you formally remove H+ from the oxycarbenium ion you have the final product.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-556893 Tue, 25 Jun 2019 04:40:21 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-556893 In reply to Vikrant Kumbhar.

It might happen to some extent but the product is a hemiacetal, and hemiacetals easily revert to starting materials. So it’s usually a cul-de-sac.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-556886 Tue, 25 Jun 2019 03:51:14 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-556886 In reply to Binkey Acharjee.

I would double check your starting materials.

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By: Binkey Acharjee https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-556285 Thu, 13 Jun 2019 13:01:33 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-556285 Dear Sir,I am a research scholar,my area organic synthesis,I am doing aldehyde ketone reaction with acid catalyst,I used 2 acetyl benzofuran and 2, amino 5,chloro benzaldehyde,but my expected product is not come, but product came 2,amino,5, chloro accetophenone, single crystal xrd confirmed the structure,but how it is formed in which mechanism I want to try find mechanism please help any suggestions,

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By: Daniel https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/06/02/the-acid-catalyzed-aldol-reaction/#comment-522673 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 03:03:04 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=452#comment-522673 In a crossed aldol reaction between 2-butanone and 2,2-dimethylbutanal, 2-butanone would be the carbanion/nucleophile considering 2,2-dimethylbutanal lacks acidic hydrogens. But aren’t there technically two different possible nucleophiles that 2-butanone could form, and wouldn’t that lead to two separate products? I understand that the more acidic hydrogen on 2-butanone is on carbon 3, but is hydrogen on carbon 1 of 2-butanone acidic at all? Can it not become the nucleophile, or is it just so unlikely that we don’t consider it?

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