Comments on: Nucleophilic Acyl Substitution (With Negatively Charged Nucleophiles) https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/ Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:29:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-688256 Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:29:08 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-688256 In reply to failinguoftstudent.

Glad to hear you find it useful – if the username is accurate, hope you’re getting help! James

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By: failinguoftstudent https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-688171 Tue, 19 Mar 2024 03:59:08 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-688171 The fact that all of this is free… you’re doing the service of god my friend.

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By: Misagh https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-652743 Tue, 18 Apr 2023 16:13:57 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-652743 thank you james very much. It was helpful indeed.
I wish more progress for you in particular in your researc

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By: Rubén https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-651240 Fri, 31 Mar 2023 07:45:16 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-651240 Hi James, thanks for your web. I noticed that DIBAL-H has one more C-atom in your drawing.
Regards,
Rubén

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-645954 Wed, 11 Jan 2023 18:40:42 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-645954 In reply to Anna.

Good question. It’s likely due to the inductive effect of the sp2-hybridized carbon atoms of the aromatic ring attached to the carbonyl. You can think of them as having a greater effective electronegativity, since they have 33% s-character (vs 25% for sp3) and the electrons are held more tightly to the nucleus.

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By: Anna https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-640394 Sun, 16 Oct 2022 04:55:27 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-640394 Why does the acidity of the corresponding carboxylic acid increase due to attachment of phenyl or vinyl group , contrary to the decrease expected due to resonance effect ?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-638595 Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:39:43 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-638595 In reply to L L.

Great question. The product of nucleophilic acyl substitution is a carboxylic acid.

Now you have a carboxylic acid (pKa = 4) in the presence of an alkoxide (conjugate base of an alcohol, pKa about 16).

It is then deprotonated to give a carboxylate.

Now what happens?

If you add RO(-) to the carboxylate, in order for nucleophilic acyl substitution to occur, your leaving group would have to be O(2-). That’s impossible, basically.

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By: L L https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-638594 Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:28:42 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-638594 For the nucleophilic acyl substitution of an ester with OH-, why is the OR- group the leaving group?
In the graph showing the pKa of leaving groups, it appears that OH- is a slightly better leaving group than OR-. If so, why does the reaction still occur? The graph states that this is a special case, but I’m not really sure why.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-638211 Fri, 16 Sep 2022 20:45:42 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-638211 In reply to Aaryan.

thank you

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By: Aaryan https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/05/06/nucleophilic-acyl-substitution/#comment-638202 Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:43:18 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=1525#comment-638202 Beautifully crafted! Such a gem for the avid learners :)

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