Comments on: Protecting Groups For Alcohols https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/ Thu, 10 Nov 2022 12:23:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630434 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 22:24:58 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630434 In reply to Morris.

Dissolve it up in THF or whatever solvent you’re using to make the enolate as a dilute solution (e.g. 0.2 M)

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By: Morris https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630422 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 20:40:58 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630422 I will try that. Although, the aldehyde is solid and not liquid.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630421 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 20:37:43 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630421 In reply to Morris.

Why not just pre-form the enolate with LDA in THF and then add your aldehyde dropwise at low temp? The OH could end up protonating your enolate, but it’s pretty sterically hindered.

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By: Morris https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630419 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 20:30:39 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630419 A million thanks. You are such a rare gem.
I have tried several times using NaOH, KOH, MgI2, as well as acid catalysis using HCl, but all to no avail (the aldehyde was not deprotonating to form chalcone). I am thinking of using NaH this time around and that’s why am concerned about protecting the hydroxy group.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630416 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 20:12:02 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630416 In reply to Morris.

In that case, it would be hard to protect since it’s sandwiched between those t-butyl groups.
Have you tried running the reaction anyways? Do you pre-form the enolate of acetophenone and then add the aldehyde? Curious if the OH would give you problems.
Otherwise this is basically a Claisen-Schmidt reaction, of which about a billion examples exist, under conditions where the enolate forms reversibly and a slight excess of base, I would imagine you could get this to go.

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By: Morris https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630409 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:39:49 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630409 I’m using 3,5-di-tert-butyl-4-hydroxybenzaldehyde. I want to condense it with Acetophenone to form (E)-3-(3,5-di-tert-butyl-4-hydroxyphenyl)-1-phenylprop-2-en-1-one

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By: Morris https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630408 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:39:00 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630408 I’m using 3,5-di-tert-butyl-4-hydroxybenzaldehyde. I want to condense it with Acetophenone to form (E)-3-(3,5-di-tert-butyl-4-hydroxyphenyl)-1-phenylprop-2-en-1-one.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630407 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:36:10 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630407 In reply to Morris.

Which hydroxybenzaldehyde are you starting with?
The usual procedure would be to start with a methoxybenzaldehyde and then try to remove the CH3 after your aldol with something like TMSI.

One milder way to do it would be to treat the hydroxybenzadehyde with KH and BnBr to make the O-benzylated benzaldehyde and then after your aldol, treat with Pd-C, H2. Or paramethoxybenzyl (PMB) and deprotect with DDQ.

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By: Morris https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-630406 Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:28:22 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-630406 I want to do an aldol condensation with hydroxybenzaldehyde using a strong base. How can I protect OH group in the presence of aldehyde ?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/06/17/protecting-groups-for-alcohols/#comment-564389 Wed, 18 Sep 2019 17:35:33 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8979#comment-564389 In reply to Tanaya Manna.

Without knowing what your molecule looks like it’s hard to say. It would be easy to selectively protect the aromatic OH because it’s considerably more acidic, and once you form the alkoxide it will be far more nucleophilic. One idea would be to just protect both groups, and then selectively deprotect the aromatic OH afterwards.

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