Comments on: Rearrangements in Alkene Addition Reactions https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/ Wed, 20 Mar 2024 18:58:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-633122 Fri, 15 Jul 2022 15:25:32 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-633122 In reply to Vaibhav Vardhan Tyagi.

The reaction generates carbocations, which are much less stable in non-polar solvents like CCl4. The best solvent for a carbocation rearrangement is a highly polar, ionizing solvent.

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By: Vaibhav Vardhan Tyagi https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-631669 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 12:14:29 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-631669 What about the solvents in the reaction. Does a CCl4 medium affect the rearrangement in any way?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-557551 Fri, 05 Jul 2019 21:12:00 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-557551 In reply to Karina.

The group that is migrating remains on the same face. This is OK because the carbocation has an empty p orbital and in theory can be attacked from either face.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-557550 Fri, 05 Jul 2019 21:09:58 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-557550 In reply to Kathy.

Glad you found it useful Kathy!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-557549 Fri, 05 Jul 2019 21:01:02 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-557549 In reply to Dev.

Cyclopropane is a very, very interesting case. Carbocations on an alkyl group adjacent to a cyclopropane are particularly stable. The result is not ring expansion, but a non-classical carbocation called the cyclopropylcarbinyl cation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbocation#Specific_carbocations

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-557548 Fri, 05 Jul 2019 20:57:40 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-557548 In reply to Dell.

Actually the carbon attached to Cl will become the carbocation. Cl has a pair of electrons which can stabilize adjacent carbocations via pi donation. See this post https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/03/05/why-are-halogens-ortho-para-directors/

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-554255 Sat, 27 Apr 2019 03:13:53 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-554255 In reply to priya.

While HCl will give you 2-chloropropane, KOH will perform elimination (E2) to give you back propene.
But why not just add H3O+ (H2SO4 / H2O) and cut out the middleman? Or oxymercuration?

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By: Kathy https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-535944 Fri, 27 Jul 2018 17:15:17 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-535944 In reply to Scott G. Campbell.

Love your post, thankyou

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By: Karina https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-512358 Sat, 06 May 2017 12:02:00 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-512358 What about the stereochemistry of the ring expansion? How is the CH2 attack? Backside or frontside?! I mean, after the expansion, the CH3 (next to the Carbon with positive charge, out of the ring) will stay inside or outside the plane of the paper?

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By: priya https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/02/26/rearrangements-in-alkene-addition-reactions/#comment-504660 Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:08:25 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7067#comment-504660 can we convert propene to propane -2-ol by using HCl ( markonikoff rule) and then by adding KOH

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